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Post by squatty on Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:18 pm

bottom of the curl, arms FULLY STRAIGHTENED:
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/8773/20130209214400.jpg
http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/923/20130209214445.jpg

bottom position of the PARTIAL CURL:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1567/20130209215056.jpg

arms fully straightened, hanging by my side:
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1968/20130209215120.jpg

mixed grip:
http://imageshack.us/a/img855/5215/20130209215151.jpg

point-of-view arm shot:
http://imageshack.us/a/img59/6660/20130209215740.jpg

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Do you see why I can only curl using the ez-bar, or do partial curls using the straight bar?
And also the main cause of all my elbow problems in the past (remember I developed serious elbow pain while doing CC pushups back at BWC?)
I should only do pushups on my knuckles, otherwise I will hurt the elbow joint seriously by the sheer twisting force being put on it.
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Post by Journeyman on Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:49 pm

That makes sense, just do what you can without causing pain.

That said I did have a friend in highschool whose arms looked like that, he did plenty of curls and pushups with no problems.
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Post by squatty on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:49 pm

What do you think about the mixed grip for deadlifts?
I won't have balance, unless I grip my overhand arm a little wider too, to balance things out, and that way I will have to pull the barbell to a higher height to lockout, thus decreasing my performance.
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Post by Dave on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:53 pm

I would at least try it light and see if it causes any pain or discomfort. If not, then you have an option. And a decrease in performance isn't necessarily bad, it often means that the exercise is a harder variation, which can produce great results. Take snatch grip deadlifts for example. Deliberately increasing the ROM and holding the barbell much higher to make it harder and reap a benefit thereby.
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Post by squatty on Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:58 pm

Yeah you're right, and rack pulls are always there if I want to benefit from heavier weights too.
I tried it once with 113kg I guess (before knowing my arms got a condition), it felt really weird, and did put asymmetrical stress on my back.
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Post by Journeyman on Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:52 pm

Try zercher lifts from various heights and you won't have to worry about the angle of your elbow.
Zercher squat lockouts (when you get a rack or something similar), spider lifts off of progressively lower boxes, sumo DL+zercher squat off thighs, etc.
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Post by Dave on Mon Feb 11, 2013 2:20 pm

Good call.
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Post by Guitar_maniac on Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:11 am

What's happened to your arms? If you don't mind me asking :/ I have a friend too who don't have his radiusbones/thumbs, still comes to gym sometimes and does what he can.
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Post by squatty on Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:33 am

Don't know really, but it can't be anything other than:
- mutation
- recessive genes (because other family members don't have the condition)
- life style (I'm the only nerd in family, and nerds and desk jockeys often have all sorts of orthopedic conditions that other people don't usually have. like forward neck, hunchback, etc).

I laid on the floor to study in my puberty years too much, I'm guessing that caused it.
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Post by Guitar_maniac on Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:32 am

I have something in my lower back/waist, when i try to lie down normally on my back, it arches too much, and i have to bend my knees or it starts to hurt, that's why i sleep mostly on my sides. Same thing happens if i try to lie on my stomach, my lower back hurts after a while. I can fix it if i tighten my abs, and adjust my waist's position a bit. Then it feels normal while lying down.

Videogames took a share of my youth too, and as a teenager i had a bad posture, walked a little bit leaning forward. Guess my lower back problems come from my video game filled youth.
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Post by Dave on Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:30 pm

It's often better to sleep on your side than on your back. It's arguably NEVER good to sleep or lie down on your stomach.

http://drtanase.com/2009/06/09/never-sleep-on-your-stomach/
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Post by Journeyman on Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:56 pm

You've posted that up before. I'm somewhat skeptical. Unless your neck is SUPER stiff the head thing shouldn't be an issue, and the whole ribcage compression fear doesn't seem all that bad either.
I do like sleeping on my side, though. I've been sleeping with my 'under' arm stretched out overhead so I'm actually stretching my shoulder while I sleep. Hopefully it'll pay off somewhere down the road.
I can't sleep completely flat on my back, either, unless I have a really good mattress pad... there's an uncomfortable hollow in my low back that doesn't flatten out if I'm completely relaxed.
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Post by Dave on Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:14 pm

His reasoning is sound and my own experience corroborates his conclusion, so I post it without reservation.
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Sleep and body aches

Post by 98poundweakling on Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:17 pm

:hijack: Sorry, Squatty! I want to weigh in here for G_maniac.
Guitar_maniac wrote:... if i try to lie on my stomach, my lower back hurts after a while. I can fix it if i tighten my abs, and adjust my waist's position a bit. Then it feels normal while lying down
Dead Bug Bicycles! They might look stupid, but they are a great way to train and strengthen the core. After about 20 or so, your abs will be burning. Nice!

Regarding sleeping position: I've been through the ringer. Completely messed up my alignment, developed muscle and joint aches and posture problems from sleeping (always) on my right side! I have found that if I am balanced, i.e. eating well, digestion good, well-rested, exercising the whole body regularly, then I feel good and am able to sleep soundly and wake up refreshed. I do change sleeping positions, from back to both sides as I feel the desire to do so.

I'm happy to finally be feeling good all over and most of the time. Of course, it has helped along the way to identify and address/eliminate/correct any repetitive stress movements (including R-side-only sleeping) that had become part of my daily life. Also VERY useful was learning to not push too hard in exercises that might cause unnecessary strain and fatigue on any body part, forcing me to stop completely in order to recover.
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Post by Journeyman on Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:48 pm

Dave.cyco wrote:His reasoning is sound and my own experience corroborates his conclusion, so I post it without reservation.

And my experience doesn't, so... yeah.
Just stating another opinion, for everyone else. And 98, yeah, switching sides is a must.
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Post by squatty on Wed Feb 13, 2013 2:36 am

:hijack: :affraid: :facepalm:

Jman, does the arms of elite kettlebell lifters look like the pictures I posted in this thread? or different?

I want to look at the brighter side of picture, aside from the disadvantages I've got with these arms, what advantages I might have? one thing that comes to my mind, is I never feel any problem holding a barbell on my back for squatting, I can grip the bar very tight and narrow without having any elbow/wrist problems, and thus getting a tighter and thicker upperback to support the bar.
What else comes to your minds?
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Post by Dave on Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:51 am

Journeyman wrote:
Dave.cyco wrote:His reasoning is sound and my own experience corroborates his conclusion, so I post it without reservation.

And my experience doesn't, so... yeah.
Just stating another opinion, for everyone else.

Jman, I'm not sayin'... I'm just sayin'. :P
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Post by Journeyman on Wed Feb 13, 2013 4:06 am

squatty wrote: :hijack: :affraid: :facepalm:

Jman, does the arms of elite kettlebell lifters look like the pictures I posted in this thread? or different?

Similar. Look at VFed's lockout here:


And his relaxed arms here:


And georgios tsangouridis' lockout here:


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Post by squatty on Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:49 am

Yeah looks similar,
thanks, knowing you're not the only one with some condition helps ease your mind.
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Post by Journeyman on Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:04 pm

If nothing else you're in very very strong company!
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