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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Madman on Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:31 am

I finished, "John Dies at The End", "A Game Of Thrones", "A Clash of kings", and I'm about 2/3 through "A Storm Of Swords"
Gotta say, I like reading fiction more than boring self-help stuff.
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Post by alexander_a on Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:18 am

Guys, lemme tell ya this: the monster hunter series are awesome. Larry Corriera, the writer, has also done two books in a cool action/magic/monster series called Grimnoir. Hard magic is the first one, Im reading it now. great book.

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Post by Fatman on Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:32 pm

Madman wrote:Gotta say, I like reading fiction more than boring self-help stuff.

Never got into reading self-help stuff, can't really cope with the "you can do it" tone.
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Madman on Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:21 pm

Fatman wrote:
Madman wrote:Gotta say, I like reading fiction more than boring self-help stuff.

Never got into reading self-help stuff, can't really cope with the "you can do it" tone.


Okay. You can't do it!:lol: 

It's all junk, the people that read this stuff usually have lousy lives and give way too much unsolicited advice.
Except for me, I stopped reading self-help, and so can you!

Never heard of Monster Hunter, is it for adults, or is it more of a Potter thing?
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Post by Dave on Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:56 pm

Madman wrote:It's all junk, the people that read this stuff usually have lousy lives and give way too much unsolicited advice.

That's actually not fair.  You probably only think that because the people going on about reading self help stuff and offering unsolicited advice are those kind of people.  So unless you're specifically asking people's advice about stuff, you'll never know the ones who read it and don't go around giving unsolicited advice because they don't go around giving unsolicited advice. :idea2: And they're also likely living good lives.  They're not wasting their time and energy trying to convince others, they're too busy improving themselves. Others of like mind usually see that and follow those people anyway, without having to be solicited. Etc.
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Post by alexander_a on Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:59 pm

No the monster hunter series are kinda horror/sci fi stuff. Very violent.
Grimnoir kinda sounds like harry potter stuff, I know, but it's for adults as well! The writers is some sort of wepon instructor for hollywood films I think. So... lots o guns in there!

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Post by Madman on Sun Aug 04, 2013 6:20 pm

Dave wrote:
Madman wrote:It's all junk, the people that read this stuff usually have lousy lives and give way too much unsolicited advice.

That's actually not fair.  You probably only think that because the people going on about reading self help stuff and offering unsolicited advice are those kind of people.  So unless you're specifically asking people's advice about stuff, you'll never know the ones who read it and don't go around giving unsolicited advice because they don't go around giving unsolicited advice. :idea2: And they're also likely living good lives.  They're not wasting their time and energy trying to convince others, they're too busy improving themselves.  Others of like mind usually see that and follow those people anyway, without having to be solicited.  Etc.


Okay, I was speaking pretty broadly.
I'm sure that there are some happy people who have read those kinds of books, but I don't think the fast-food style consumption of these materials will lead to a better life. If someone seems successful, then I'd call Self-help the exception rather than the reason.
So I don't believe that it really helps people, if it did, there'd be only be one book for each personal problem.

I'll say it now, There is no way you'll learn anything new in one of those books, nothing, not a chance.
All they can do is give you general encouragement like: "Try harder!" or "believe in yourself", add 119 pages of padding, some "real" success stories and anyone in this forum could write a best selling Lifechanger.

I know I'm coming off as a D1ck, (sorry, self help didn't fix it), but you can apply this to anything.
Just look at some fitness books. There has to be enough reading material about building muscle to fill a warehouse, but how many people are jacked?
And if they are, did the nine-hundred-ninety-ninth book about splits and supplements really have anything to do with their success? or did it just take work?

Sometimes I'm faced with a decision or a problem. All I can say is "do the right thing" and it's answered more questions for me than any book.
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Post by Dave on Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:53 pm

Maybe so but to many people, the right thing isn't necessarily something that can be intuitively known, perhaps from insufficient experience, depending on the specific goals one might have.  I mean sure "everybody knows" that early to bed and early to rise will make a man happy, healthy, wealthy and wise, but the more specialised our goals become, the more we can benefit by relying on the experience of others; the more pitfalls we can avoid by having them pointed out to us by those with more experience.

People can be fickle too.  Sure you may have been exposed to such and such a principle of success somewhere in your life and already know it, but it never hurts to have it presented to you from a different perspective.

Success is built on habits.  It never hurts to learn the habits practiced by others who are successful, and often we need to be reminded of the good habits we already know, especially when they become tiresome to us.  These are the times when reading a good self improvement book can bring back to the forefront of our minds habits that we might have begun once before and yet no longer practice as we should.

So no I don't think you sound like a ****, but almost sound like someone who either thinks he has no bad habits, never abandons a good habit and cannot benefit from anyone else's experience, or someone who just doesn't care about other's experiences and wants to learn every little thing himself.  But you're not the first one, because not one of us can say we have absolutely nothing left to gain from listening to the experience of others in some facet (usually many) of his or her life.

If you want to learn everything by your own experience, more power to you, but it's inaccurate and unjust to negatively characterize all people who crave and even gluttonize on the knowledge and experience of others.  That was my point.  

Okay, I was speaking pretty broadly.

As everybody know, every blanket statement is false. :eyebrows: 
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Post by Madman on Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:34 pm

Right and wrong can fall into a grey area, at least in the moral perspective. But doing what's easy, or self-serving is at the top of some people's lists.
Self honesty is an important thing to have.

We could all learn something from a professional actor, dancer, or lifter, but I highly discredit self-help gurus.
I think they know more about marketing than actually doing things, They talk about success, but alot of this "success" is capitalizing on other peoples problems. And these problems usually go unsolved.

It's true, I don't take alot of peoples advice seriously, especially when it's second hand Tony Robbins.

I'm really just trying to discredit a whole bunch of wealthy folks who everyone seems to think know crab about crab.
It's possible to value other peoples counsel too much, and In my very 'valuable' opinion: almost all people do.
That's my major problem with Self-help.

Seeking knowlege is fine, but valuing all of it is a fools pursuit, imo.
I see your point though, you clearly have a bias towards self-help stuff, but you don't come off as preachy and such.

I'm surprised I haven't been suspended, this is one of the only mature conversations I've had this month. :D
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Post by itlives on Sun Aug 04, 2013 11:54 pm

Madman wrote:
It's possible to value other peoples counsel too much,
. :D


I agree here. I always seek out people that know more than I. It's good to listen and make your own decisions. I don't read self help material that is designated as such.
I am self taught in a few things that have served me in life.
Most things one does, someone else has already done and they can save you from making mistakes that are bound to happen.

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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Dave on Mon Aug 05, 2013 12:00 am

Madman wrote:Right and wrong can fall into a grey area

That's just it. It's not about right or wrong, it's about action, reaction. It's about wanting to know what successful people in whatever field your are interested in did and what the results were. And a lot of time what they did produced poor results until they refined it.

Madman wrote:Seeking knowlege is fine, but valuing all of it is a fools pursuit, imo.

Right, and a lot of what even the most zealous self improvement aficionados read will most likely be discarded, or at the very least be nothing more than review.  However, it's just like lifting.  I'll have to try a lot of different things before I find the right recipe for my own success, so that's why I expose myself to lots of ideas; I never know who will have the perfect puzzle piece for where I am at the moment or who it will come from.  But the more exposure I get to the ideas of others (passed through the filter of my own experience and critical thinking) the sooner I'll find that nugget of gold that I maybe wouldn't quite have put my finger on or conceive on my own with the limitations of my present experience.

For an example I invite you to take a look at the contents or even just a review of The 8 Traits Successful People Have in Common by Richard St. John.  You'll see it's not subjective, gooey, feel good tripe, but clear, specific and practical advice backed by examples from the lives of highly successful people.  I believe if you read that short book cover to cover you'd get a better idea of what the "self help" or "self improvement" or "tips for success" genre really entails.

It's been a while for me though...  I mostly seek my inspiration reading online now, a lot of training info and videos, a lot of Elliot Hulse too...
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Post by Fatman on Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:36 am

alexander_a wrote:No the monster hunter series are kinda horror/sci fi stuff. Very violent.
Grimnoir kinda sounds like harry potter stuff, I know, but it's for adults as well! The writers is some sort of wepon instructor for hollywood films I think. So... lots o guns in there!

Have you tried Charles Stross' The Laundry Files? Sounds like you might enjoy it. The author also has a very good blog in which he discusses writing, etc.
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Post by alexander_a on Mon Aug 05, 2013 2:27 pm

okay! I think I have some book from him lying around here... Not from that series though. I may check that out!

I also enjoy robopocalypse, it's a pretty good read about, yeah, the title say it best :)

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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Glinda on Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:42 am

Non-fiction: Just finished Wheat Belly and was not impressed. Mushy application of "science". Trying to find a good book on specialized/healthy diets is difficult because there's often a very narrow, "only this method will bring you success!" outlook.

Fiction: Any good recommendations? I like sci-fi. I've also got Redshirts on hold at the library.

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Post by alexander_a on Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:40 pm

sci-fi, the one I mentioned there, robopocalypse was pretty cool!

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Post by ranger_x3 on Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:14 pm

I've been reading a ton of books related to training for running over the past few weeks, but one more inclined to general sports is The Sports Gene: Inside the Science of Extraordinary Athletic Performance. The book was released on the first of the month and I've already annihilated it. Extremely interesting read.

Fiction-wise I just finished Clockwork Princess and I'm several chapters into Sovereign, though I just got Run with the Champions in today that has quick biographies and training excerpts from 50 of the greatest American runners of all time.

And by a lot of books I'd say I've purchased at least 10 books in the last month and only not read 1 cover to cover because it was a compilation of research and not meant to be read cover to cover.

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Post by Brahma Bill on Wed Dec 04, 2013 9:51 am

Just finished this one and would definitely recommend it,

"The Power of Habit" Charles Duhigg
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by TheMasterKey on Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:19 pm

Here's an update of the better books I've read since last posting in this thread...

Economic Facts and Fallacies - Thomas Sowell



The chapters break down as follows:
-The Power of Fallacies
-Urban Facts and Fallacies
-Male-Female Facts and Fallacies
-Academic Facts and Fallacies
-Income Facts and Fallacies
-Racial Facts and Fallacies
-Third World Facts and Fallacies
-Parting Thoughts

I'm a fan of Thomas Sowell, but I found this book somewhat depressing and rage-inducing.

I've decided to put the economics books down, and let the academics mentally masturbate over this $hit.
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Post by TheMasterKey on Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:23 pm

Rich Dad's Guide to Investing - Robert T. Kiyosaki



This books is basically an expanded version of his book, "Rich Dad, Poor Dad".  

If you haven't read RDPD, I would start there instead.  And frankly, you can probably skip this if you've read RDPD.  

I consider Kiyosaki a "dream seller", but RDPD really opened my eyes to a bigger picture and literally changed the direction of my life.
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Post by TheMasterKey on Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:34 pm

The Art of Seduction - Robert Greene



Not a "how-to" book, but an entertaining read.  

The book has two parts -

The first describes the different "character types" of seducers.  (Including the anti-seducer  :lol:)

The second part is made up of 24 sections describing the "seductive process", through historical references and analysis.

I'm a fan of Robert Greene, but I can only take some much of his "TRUST NO ONE!!!!1!" worldview.
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Post by TheMasterKey on Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:37 pm

What Every Body is Saying - Joe Navarro



Written by an ex-FBI agent, this breaks down various body language postures and gives possible interpretations to their meaning.

Includes pictures throughout.

Entertaining and informative read.
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Post by TheMasterKey on Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:40 pm

No More Mr. Nice Guy - Dr. Robert Glover



Cover says it all.

And it's not that you can't be nice, but that it has to come from a position of strength.
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Post by MF! on Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:06 am

If seduction was applied as it is actually stated (and I can see it being possible).... then it is a powerful (potentially dangerous) piece of knowledge to have. The way I've seen it is that Greene isn't talking about PUA ish, he's going deeper into psychological attachment of one person to another. I can't say that I've seen anyone consciously and successfully use the ideas he gives, but I've seen it at work with certain people. You're right, its an entertaining read but the potential for its use is interesting.

I'm about 2/3 into that book and put it down earlier in the year to finish up school, but I think I'll get back into again soon.
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Post by Fatman on Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:12 pm

Wonderfully lyrical, groundbreaking work of science fiction - Neuromancer by William Gibson:

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Post by Fatman on Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:15 pm

Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond - an intelligent look at how civilizations evolved:



Never has my mind been so thoroughly blown by a book. I generally dislike non-fiction, but this book is something else.
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Post by Fatman on Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:19 pm

And of course... classical masterpiece is classical:





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Post by Brahma Bill on Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:22 pm

If you like Baseball even just a little, this one is worth your time.
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Post by Journeyman on Sun Feb 09, 2014 8:49 pm

Fatman wrote:Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond - an intelligent look at how civilizations evolved:



Never has my mind been so thoroughly blown by a book. I generally dislike non-fiction, but this book is something else.

I only skimmed part of the book but I saw the tv series, it was really really cool.

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Post by Dominator350 on Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:31 pm

Just finished "When China Rules the World" and "Dirty Wars".

Picking up "Cool Wars" and "By All Means Necessary". These books are depressing, but imperative to understand what will happen in this century.

It's time to learn more about the country that is changing the entire world, in my opinion. We would do well to, cause the truth is actually terrifying and when you put the facts together, you start to understand the overall threat.

Other then that, I read the internet like a madman. I've studied various things over the last half year, manufacturing, urban survivalism in various scenarios and outcomes(war, famine, economic collapse, and occupation), politics, economics and general statistics on the public and private sectors, both locally and internationally. UN reports and such.

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Post by Cesar on Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:07 pm

http://www.amazon.com/The-Zombie-Survival-Guide-Protection/dp/1400049628

currently reading on my kindle
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Post by Dominator350 on Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:11 pm

Cesar wrote:http://www.amazon.com/The-Zombie-Survival-Guide-Protection/dp/1400049628

currently reading on my kindle

Great stuff, lots of fun for sure. Without sounding like a fool, lot's of useful stuff to think about in my opinion.

You see the walking dead? How do these people not utilize bicycles!? All that gas, running around like that...

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Post by Cesar on Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:35 pm

Dominator350 wrote:
Cesar wrote:http://www.amazon.com/The-Zombie-Survival-Guide-Protection/dp/1400049628

currently reading on my kindle

Great stuff, lots of fun for sure. Without sounding like a fool, lot's of useful stuff to think about in my opinion.

You see the walking dead? How do these people not utilize bicycles!? All that gas, running around like that...

I did not know about the walking dead until the end of the 2nd season so i did not start. further, i have lil kids so i have to watch kid friendly tv.  
I plan on reading this after...http://www.amazon.com/World-War-History-HISTORY-Paperback/dp/B004SSUPMS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1395952442&sr=8-6&keywords=world+war+z

The books is definitly fun. it can easily go be generalized to real life stuff though.  complete anarchy and the different things that one can do to protect self and family. it talks about finding the best options for different situations, weapons, preparing for being stuck in your home or in the wild.
it is like doomsday preppers - the show.
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Post by Bissen on Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:01 pm

Not reading any books per se, but tons of articles. I'll never finish!

I have a few books waiting for me (one on equine behaviour) and then I'd really like to get my hands on a book called "Care and Rehabilitation of The Equine Foot".

I'm generally pretty bad at reading anything long. Actually, I'm just horrible at single-tasking  :geg:
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Post by CheesedogTheFirst on Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:32 am

Right now I'm about halfway through the second book of the "Game of Thrones" series. Very good!
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Post by Cesar on Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:54 am

Chese - I've heard good things about the series
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Post by Dave on Fri Mar 28, 2014 10:40 am

I'm working my way through the Anatomy Coloring Book.
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Post by Cesar on Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:06 pm

 
Dave wrote:I'm working my way through the Anatomy Coloring Book.


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Post by Dave on Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:21 pm

I don't think you know what you are saying sir.  It was created originally in 1977 as a cooperative project between a doctor and an artist and has used as a learning tool by students in the health and medical fields to learn and reinforce all aspects of human anatomy knowledge.  Might want to look it up before you make fun of it. Jussayin.
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Cesar on Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:44 pm

Dave wrote:I don't think you know what you are saying sir.  It was created originally in 1977 as a cooperative project between a doctor and an artist and has used as a learning tool by students in the health and medical fields to learn and reinforce all aspects of human anatomy knowledge.  Might want to look it up before you make fun of it.  Jussayin.

Not making fun of it. I thought you were joking and being silly.
Anatomy books can be boring adn if this was created to make it more interesting and appealing to those reading, studying anatomy then more power to the book.
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Brahma Bill on Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:37 pm

Cesar wrote:
Dave wrote:I don't think you know what you are saying sir.  It was created originally in 1977 as a cooperative project between a doctor and an artist and has used as a learning tool by students in the health and medical fields to learn and reinforce all aspects of human anatomy knowledge.  Might want to look it up before you make fun of it.  Jussayin.

Not making fun of it. I thought you were joking and being silly.
Anatomy books can be boring adn if this was created to make it more interesting and appealing to those reading, studying anatomy then more power to the book.  
I too, thought you were being a wise A, and laughed accordingly.
It actually sounds pretty interesting now that you've laid it out for us.
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by CheesedogTheFirst on Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:58 am

Cesar wrote:Chese - I've heard good things about the series

It's excellent, but you need to spend a lot of time on them, as they are very long, have tons of important characters, and cover a lot of time.
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Dave on Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:59 pm

Ha ha fair enough guys! :lol: It was actually purchased for me by my beautiful girlfriend Lara after she heard me mentioning that I wanted to get one.
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Brahma Bill on Sun May 04, 2014 7:38 pm

Just finished this one, a nice little history of steroid use in the US and a good read.
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Cesar on Sun May 04, 2014 7:40 pm

Dave wrote:I don't think you know what you are saying sir.  It was created originally in 1977 as a cooperative project between a doctor and an artist and has used as a learning tool by students in the health and medical fields to learn and reinforce all aspects of human anatomy knowledge.  Might want to look it up before you make fun of it.  Jussayin.

I found the PDF online and sent it to my kindle. haven't looked at it yet.
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by CheesedogTheFirst on Mon May 05, 2014 1:10 am

I'm about halfway through the third book of the "Game of Thrones" series.  Excellent!
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Avocadoshake on Mon May 05, 2014 2:50 am

Surface Detail, Iain M. Banks.


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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by tilles on Mon May 05, 2014 3:45 am

Cheesedog wrote:I'm about halfway through the third book of the "Game of Thrones" series.  Excellent!

I read all of them - once you start you can't stop reading :D Brilliant books !
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Cesar on Mon May 05, 2014 9:53 am

almost done with zombie survival guide and then on to world war Z
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by CheesedogTheFirst on Tue May 06, 2014 1:22 am

tilles wrote:
Cheesedog wrote:I'm about halfway through the third book of the "Game of Thrones" series.  Excellent!

I read all of them - once you start you can't stop reading :DBrilliant books !

You've got that right, I wish I had more time for recreational reading.

Cesar wrote:almost done with zombie survival guide and then on to world war Z

I read the zombie survival guide, it was a pretty fun book.
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Re: Books - What are YOU reading?

Post by Cesar on Tue May 06, 2014 10:42 am

Yes it is. The cool thing about it is that you can generalize to survival. Mind you, Zombie guide seems vague and it is for fun. It makes me thing of some of the thoughts that Tom Brown Jr. proposed in his survival books. I read his first several books from when he was younger, how he became involved in tracking. Highly recommended books. Lots of fun and you can relate to them.  There was a movie based on him  movie based on Tom Brown Jr.


Tom Brown Jr.

his other books
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