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Madmans' first log 2013

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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Madman on Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:00 am

Who do you think I am, the only Canadian who doesn't own a sweater? :lol: 

My ears, nose, hands, upper back and feet are always a little cold. Comes with the territory I guess :shrug: 
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Madman on Thu Oct 03, 2013 3:09 am

tried some l-seat pullups, actually surprised at how different they feel.

10.02.2013
Finally a decent workout.

Sets/reps/weight

Bench press-8x8@90lbs

Shrugs-5x5@120lbs

Pullups-6x6

Ab wheel kneeling-5x15

pistols-2x5

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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Dave on Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:04 am

What did you find different about the L-sit pullups?

And yes very decent workout indeed! :up:
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Madman on Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:58 am

L-seat pullups kinda feel like more of a stability thing to me, and I know it's gonna sound weird, but I felt my chest working a bit, almost like pullovers or something.

I've got nasty doms right now, so I didn't do much today.

10.03.2013

L-seat pullups-5x5

Pullups-4x4

Later today...

Deadlift-3x5@170lbs

Wrestler bridge-3x1 min (though I'm no wrestler and don't claim to be)

Pullup hangs-3x30 seconds

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Flexing my muscles between sets is causing way more fatigue and doms, even reduced work volume.
Is this really helping me use the right muscles, or am I just kidding myself and chasing after unnecessary soreness?

I really hope it's worth while, because I can do way more work without flexing, but I've never had sore glutes from deadlifting or sore lats from pullups, and this is relatively less volume than I'm accustomed to. :scratch: 
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Post by Dave on Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:24 am

For me L-sit pullups remove any possibility of cheating the movement, and force a much more straight up and down. IN other words, they are my implementation of Jman's pullup advice.
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Madman on Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:37 am

It fixes the kipping problem, but you still gotta keep from becoming an arm-puller. I'm still trying to fix that aswell.


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Post by Dave on Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:25 am

Are you using a pronated grip? I do almost exclusively lately and I feel it all in my back, though my arms are feeling a little thicker just these last couple days, probably more from HeSPUs than anything.
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Madman on Sun Oct 06, 2013 12:48 am

Nothing wrong with thick arms.

I thought overhand was pullups and underhand was chins.

I don't know whats working yet.
I need more time to recover and can handle alot less volume than before, that could mean I'm working my muscles properly for once and need time to catch up, or I'm still out of shape after my layoff. Maybe both. Hooray!

10.05.2013
Bench-5,5,3,3,1,1@120lbs
Bench-3x10@90lbs
Deadlift-5x5@170lbs
Later that day...
Pullups-5x6
Chins-5x7
Chin hangs-3x30 seconds.
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Gotta start splitting up my workouts again. too many exercises,too little time..
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Madman on Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:38 am

Just weighed in a 140lbs this morning, awwwwwwyyyyyeah!.
No one can stop this Diesel p3nis strong-man!  Grrrrrr! :headbang: 


10.06.2013
Ab wheel kneeling-25,20,20,20
Leg lifts-4x15
Wrestler bridge-3x1min
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Brahma Bill on Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:13 am

Madman wrote:Just weighed in a 140lbs this morning, awwwwwwyyyyyeah!.
No one can stop this Diesel p3nis strong-man!  Grrrrrr! :headbang: 


10.06.2013
Ab wheel kneeling-25,20,20,20
Leg lifts-4x15
Wrestler bridge-3x1min
Thanks a Lot. I had to explain to my Wife why I was laughing so hard.:roflol2: 
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Madman on Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:54 pm

You give good advice, my confidence is already at an all time high. I have a goal now. (reach 145lbs before jan1st)

10.08.2013
this should make up for the day off.
Bench-6x3@120lbs
Deadlift-5x5@170
Pullups-8,8,8,6,5
Pushups-20,20,15, (hurt my darn elbow)
Pistols-5x5
Chins-5x8
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Dave on Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:04 am

If you're main goal is to put on some size, I invite you to try snatch grip deadlifts. :twisted:
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Iliander on Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:43 am

Madman wrote:You give good advice, my confidence is already at an all time high. I have a goal now. (reach 145lbs before jan1st)

10.08.2013
this should make up for the day off.
Bench-6x3@120lbs
Deadlift-5x5@170
Pullups-8,8,8,6,5
Pushups-20,20,15, (hurt my darn elbow)
Pistols-5x5
Chins-5x8
That's a solid workout right there!
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Madman on Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:58 am

Thanks, iliander.

Snatch grip deadlifts are more lat focused right? I may do them tomorrow.

10.09.2013
Ab wheel-6x10
bridge-3x90seconds
Neck curl-5x15
shrugs-3x12@70lbs
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Journeyman on Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:45 am

Snatch grip deadlifts basically put more stress on the upper back, while making you squat down (or hinge down) a bit lower. I'd advise against using them until you've pulled at least 315, because they'll limit the weight you can use especially if you don't have straps (or have mastered the hook grip, but even then, straps are preferable if you're putting a lot of work in).

Good to see you're back on track :nod: 

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Post by Dave on Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:03 am

Journeyman wrote:Snatch grip deadlifts basically put more stress on the upper back, while making you squat down (or hinge down) a bit lower. I'd advise against using them until you've pulled at least 315, because they'll limit the weight you can use especially if you don't have straps (or have mastered the hook grip, but even then, straps are preferable if you're putting a lot of work in).
This is all quite true actually.
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Post by Madman on Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:19 pm

I'm getting some conflicting advice here.

It's good to hear from you J-man.
As you can see I've stalled and restarted yet again.

What are your thoughts on unloaded isometrics between sets for muscle activation?
It seems to work for deadlifts anyways.

10.10.2013
Bench-6x3x120lbs
Deadlift-5x5@170
Pullups-8,8,8,8,5
Pullup hangs-5x25 seconds.

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Post by Dave on Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:49 pm

Just to clarify, I wouldn't go as far as to say don't do it until you can hit 315, but everything else I agree with.
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Journeyman on Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:18 pm

Isometrics--if it works, do it.

315 is an arbitrary number, but I think it will lay a good base. At 140 pounds and wanting to look like bane, limiting the weight moved in any way is -not- going to help. Biggest weights through the fullest range of motion... and then recover.
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Black. on Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:03 pm

Hey! Nice workouts !!!
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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Dave on Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:41 pm

Journeyman wrote:limiting the weight moved in any way is -not- going to help. Biggest weights through the fullest range of motion... and then recover.
Limiting the intensity is not going to help, but doing a harder variation, even if it forces lighter weights is not limiting the intensity, though it may shift the focus.  Snatch grip deadlifts with 75% of your DL max are quite intense, whatever your max is.  I have no doubt they will produce gains.
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Post by Journeyman on Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:24 pm

I get where you're coming from, and I know you like snatch-grip DLs. But for someone pulling under 200 for 5x5, I believe it is important to use the variant that will allow the most weight to be handled. The grip, low back, and midsection can be overloaded to the greatest degree, even if the upper back and perhaps quads might be 'hit' a bit more, even with a lighter weight, doing snatch grip deadlifts. I think it's a good idea to use exercises in which the prime movers are the limiting factor, especially for size gains, until the lifter is advanced enough to require different variants to keep progressing, repair weak points, etc.


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Re: Madmans' first log 2013

Post by Madman on Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:52 am

Thanks, Black.


You guys are confusing me, I'm literally hovering over the bar and peering up at my comp screen with uncertainty.
It's times like this I wished I was more consistent and had better recovery abilities. I'd do all the exercises.

From what I've heard, all forms of deadlifts are actually inferior to squats as far as mass building goes.
Something about the stretch reflex/rebound action of squats is supposed to build more mass, But that just leaves me where I am with conditioning/recovery issues.

I def won't be Bane for Halloween. :no:
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Post by Journeyman on Sun Oct 13, 2013 3:09 am

Deadlifts and squats for mass... depends on your leverages, stance, various limitations... a lot of different things, really. And it's not as simple as a stretch reflex, because you could always do heavy RDLs starting from the rack.

Personally, I'd stick with what you're doing, more or less. Squat once weekly, deadlift once weekly. Follow the 5x5>1x1, or 4x12>4x3, and pile on the weight.
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Post by CheesedogTheFirst on Fri Mar 28, 2014 2:15 am

Hey Madman, where ya at Bro?
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