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Post by charley bronson on Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:53 pm

hello all
it all started when i wanted to do push ups... one thing lead to another now i wanna do whole body training.
Primary goal is uper body muscle building, cos i m kinda not proportional, i m missing some mass in the uper part.
I m 22, 195 cm and 105 kg. I dont wanna lose weight- cos my girlfriend is gonna leave me if i do :), but i m going to do it to make my training more efective

anyway greetings
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Re: The Beginner

Post by Rix on Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:57 pm

:lol!: Welcome again!
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Post by Rastaman on Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:40 pm

Welcome Charley.

My whole body training started with pushups also.

Will be following your log.
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Post by Avocadoshake on Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:28 am

Welcome, dont forget the pull. More pull than push, a ratio of 2:1 - if I remember correctly - is a good starting point. :beardy:
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Post by Dave on Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:10 pm

Keep in mind that it depends on the trainee's current development. Someone who has a physical job that requires a lot of pulling might not need such a slanted ratio of pull to push, but generally speaking (since most people hunch at a desk or computer or flop down in front of a TV for hours on end) most people likely will benefit from pulling more than pushing.
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Post by Iliander on Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:15 pm

Avocadoshake wrote:Welcome, dont forget the pull. More pull than push, a ratio of 2:1 - if I remember correctly - is a good starting point. :beardy:
I disagree. That makes me think about flat-chested skinny kids doing 5 sets of 30 chin-ups but fail at 10 diamond push-ups. 1:1 is the way to go, unless you have a physical job that requires a lot of either pulling or pushing as Dave mentioned.
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Post by Avocadoshake on Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:06 pm

Thank you guys for clearing things up. As I observe myself, I clearly underestimate the amount I push and overestimate the pulling. That's why I gtg my pullups on the go, whenever I come along a bar or similar.

Back in my gym days, I observed the fraggles (here the term used with another meaning) benchin' waaay to much and barely pulling. Kudos to those, who did lat rows and pull downs. Btw. Lat rows are an awesome pulling exercise imho.

I prefer pulling to pushing, so I'm obviously biased.
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Re: The Beginner

Post by Dave on Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:21 pm

Mistrial.
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Re: The Beginner

Post by trainingforlife on Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:58 pm

“Constantly Varied, High Intensity, Functional Movement.” Thats all you need. You focus too much on one area and the others get weak. Have fun, demand more of yourself and train for life not the gym. Good luck you will learn a lot from these people, so pay attention!

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Post by Dave on Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:17 pm

trainingforlife wrote:Have fun, demand more of yourself and train for life not the gym.

QOTM!
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Post by Journeyman on Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:29 pm

I don't understand what 'train for life' means, other than simply being healthy, but yeah.
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Re: The Beginner

Post by Dave on Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:32 pm

I think he means don't get so fixated on one particular exercise you do in the gym that you train so hard for it to the exclusion of other factors. So basically what you said. And I think he said it very well.

However, if it were the snatch, I'd say fixate all you want. :P
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